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		<title>Comment on On the Subject of Selling Hair by Jasmyne Artist</title>
		<link>http://virginiasolesmith.com/2010/12/on-the-subject-of-selling-hair/#comment-4166</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasmyne Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &#039;ve gotten weave and hair extensions since i was about 7 (i was a very spoiled child). And everytime i did i had never even once thought about where the hair itself came from......until i was in history class and we had to watch this video on sweatshops and how some children worked in them and that the women and children (and sometimes even men!) had to sell their hair just to get by because they were so poor. Anyway long story short i was distraught at the fact that there were barely any bathroom breaks and the very hot and humid condititions those women and children had to work in. It made me sick to my stomach (literally). And to this day i don&#039;t get &quot;fake hair in my head. In the end i learned to accept myself for who i am inside and out, and i gotta say that i like it. alot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I &#8216;ve gotten weave and hair extensions since i was about 7 (i was a very spoiled child). And everytime i did i had never even once thought about where the hair itself came from&#8230;&#8230;until i was in history class and we had to watch this video on sweatshops and how some children worked in them and that the women and children (and sometimes even men!) had to sell their hair just to get by because they were so poor. Anyway long story short i was distraught at the fact that there were barely any bathroom breaks and the very hot and humid condititions those women and children had to work in. It made me sick to my stomach (literally). And to this day i don&#8217;t get &#8220;fake hair in my head. In the end i learned to accept myself for who i am inside and out, and i gotta say that i like it. alot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on You Can Stop Showering! (Pretty People Say It&#8217;s Totally Cool) by Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came upon this blog post after getting engaged in a conversation with someone about their non-showering habits. I&#039;m not a judgmental person, but I found something about that to be unsettling, particularly when they said, &quot;I&#039;m also a girl and use body sprays. So. No complaints.&quot; Ultimately, I think I&#039;d have more respect for HER particular perspective if it were a step toward being more natural, and not the physical equivalent of when I used to spray my clothes with Febreeze instead of washing them.

C&#039;est la vie. I shower every day because my body overproduces oils like a beast, and my hair becomes a pliable art material for making stop motion movies instead of, you know. Hair. (Because it&#039;s so greasy).

tl;dr: people can do what they want, I choose to shower. I also really like your blog, and will begin reading more of it. #awesome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came upon this blog post after getting engaged in a conversation with someone about their non-showering habits. I&#8217;m not a judgmental person, but I found something about that to be unsettling, particularly when they said, &#8220;I&#8217;m also a girl and use body sprays. So. No complaints.&#8221; Ultimately, I think I&#8217;d have more respect for HER particular perspective if it were a step toward being more natural, and not the physical equivalent of when I used to spray my clothes with Febreeze instead of washing them.</p>
<p>C&#8217;est la vie. I shower every day because my body overproduces oils like a beast, and my hair becomes a pliable art material for making stop motion movies instead of, you know. Hair. (Because it&#8217;s so greasy).</p>
<p>tl;dr: people can do what they want, I choose to shower. I also really like your blog, and will begin reading more of it. #awesome</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Georgia Billboard Project Reached Its Goal! by Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea you and Jackie knew each other! That&#039;s awesome!! 
Also, hooray for this project. I&#039;m thrilled to learn about it.</description>
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Also, hooray for this project. I&#8217;m thrilled to learn about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Spa Stories] The Sheriff Gets a Brazilian by The Georgia Billboard Project Reached Its Goal!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Georgia Billboard Project Reached Its Goal!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yay! (Backstory: Y&#8217;all might remember Jackie&#8217;s awesome writing from when she visited us here. She&#8217;s also kinda like my little sister, because when my real little sister went to a [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on On Liking Your Body When It Doesn&#8217;t Like You Back by The Georgia Billboard Project Reached Its Goal!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Georgia Billboard Project Reached Its Goal!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] quick one. Sorry guys, Horace was back in town for most of last week, though I think he finally packed his bags today. But even with his nonsense, [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Awesome Doesn&#8217;t Have a Size. by Support the Billboard Project with a Solidarity Dollar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Support the Billboard Project with a Solidarity Dollar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] case you missed it, here&#8217;s my first post about this amazing project, and my awesome cousin Kate, standing with me in the picture [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Pinning Things Down by Virginia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Samantha/Glass Cannon! I love your take on this, especially on the end of that episode -- I saw shades of the same &quot;accepting our differences&quot; theme and I liked it bunches. 

Also, so sorry about your MIA comment on the pain post. A couple got lost in the migration (we exported before people were done chatting about that post) so I need to go back and fetch them. Thanks for the reminder to get on that! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Samantha/Glass Cannon! I love your take on this, especially on the end of that episode &#8212; I saw shades of the same &#8220;accepting our differences&#8221; theme and I liked it bunches. </p>
<p>Also, so sorry about your MIA comment on the pain post. A couple got lost in the migration (we exported before people were done chatting about that post) so I need to go back and fetch them. Thanks for the reminder to get on that! <img src='http://virginiasolesmith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Pinning Things Down by Samantha/GlassCannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha/GlassCannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Hi, recent new reader, found your blog via a comment of yours on AlreadyPretty.  I tried to comment on your recent chronic pain post, but I think the internet ate it.  Anyhow, hi.)

This is a really interesting topic, and an insightful post.  I&#039;ve been watching The New Girl fairly casually (mostly because Community is on hiatus right now, sigh), so while I love Zooey, I haven&#039;t followed much of the press about the show.  I hadn&#039;t heard this divide articulated as Murphy vs. Zooey, but I think that encapsulates it well.  This is something I&#039;ve struggled with myself over the last decade and a half, and as I&#039;m nearing 31, I think I finally have a good handle on it.  Maybe.

I spent most of the last decade working as a video game designer (until taking a chronic-illness-induced sabbatical about a year ago).  It&#039;s a very male-dominated industry, with about 90% of designers identifying as male, and about 95% of programmers.  There&#039;s not a lot of interest or patience for anything twee, and being too girly can get you mistaken for the receptionist, rather than taken seriously as a creative professional.  Having an influence on the creative process at all requires that you speak loudly, clearly, and with a good dose of sarcasm and wit.

Those are things I&#039;ve never had trouble with.  I&#039;ve always been loud and sarcastic, despite being small in stature and easily injured physically.  So for years, I tried to make my exterior presentation fit with the idea of a tough, snarky video game designer who can keep up with the guys.  After wearing my hair long for a few years, I went to a salon and actually said the words &quot;I need something edgier, my hair is way too sweet for me.&quot;  The hairdresser cut it into a style inspired by Reese Witherspoon from Sweet Home Alabama, proving that not even my request for &quot;edgy&quot; was taken seriously.  But I spiked it out and got progressively shorter, spikier cuts.  I wore sarcastic tshirts and big Doc Martens and shrugged off colleague&#039;s comments that I was &quot;dressed up&quot; when I wore even a jersey skirt with my sarcastic Ts and combat boots.  And beyond that, I focused on my designing and writing and pushed hard to be taken seriously by the male-dominated industry.

But early in my career, I came down with a chronic illness.  As it got worse, I stopped working full time in offices with other designers and programmers and started working more from home.  I would still carefully construct professional-but-edgy outfits for in-person meetings, but when working from home, I didn&#039;t really give it much thought.  I stopped worrying if a tshirt accurately expressed my inner snark while papering over my outer girliness.  I grew my hair back out.  I took the plunge and got Zooey bangs, even.

And somewhere along the way, I realized I don&#039;t have to walk around in a tshirt that says &quot;snarky video game designer&quot; to &lt;i&gt;be one&lt;/i&gt;.  I don&#039;t have to wear my profession on my sleeve -- or my politics, my sexuality, my geek-cred, or my snarkiness.  I like to make my own clothes, and I don&#039;t have to save those skills just for making geek-themed cosplay to retain my geek-cred.  I can wear vintage-inspired dresses that I designed and sewed myself, I can wear my hair long and curly with Zooey bangs, and it has absolutely nothing to do with my ability to design video games just as well as a guy can.  It also has absolutely nothing to do with my standing as a feminist.

So when you said &quot;I find this exciting, because it means we get to decide which aspects of these narratives apply to our own lives&quot;, I think you hit the nail on the head.  We get to choose, for ourselves, how much of Zooey we want to incorporate into ourselves, and how much of Murphy.  And we get to change that ratio whenever we want.  They aren&#039;t mutually exclusive, and I think calling women out on &lt;i&gt;choosing&lt;/i&gt; to be girly is going against everything the Murphy Browns of the world fought for.  Forcing women into a Murphy stereotype is just as bad as forcing women to be homemakers.  Isn&#039;t feminism about choice?

Personally, I like being snarky and tech-y while wearing petticoats and winged eyeliner.  Retro femininity is something that feels good on my body, that works with my body type rather than against it, that makes me feel good about how I look.  But my personality isn&#039;t Zooey, much less Jess -- maybe Zooey a la Hitchhiker&#039;s Guide To The Galaxy, sarcastic and adventurous and likely to shoot a guy (with an empathy gun, probably, maybe).  But I shouldn&#039;t have to act like Jess to defend the fact that I dress a bit like her, any more than I should have to dress like I stepped off the set of Hackers to defend my geek-cred.

And I agree with Zooey&#039;s comment in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://nymag.com/print/?/arts/tv/profiles/zooey-deschanel-2011-9/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NYMag article&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;I think the fact that people are associating being girlie with weakness, &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; needs to be examined. I don’t think that it undermines my power at all.”

As far as the end of the latest New Girl episode, with Julia coming over and joining in on crochet time, I didn&#039;t feel like it was a slight against the Murphys of the world.  To me it said that it&#039;s important to accept each other and support each other &lt;i&gt;as women&lt;/i&gt; regardless of our Zooey dresses or Murphy Brown pantsuits.  Feminism shouldn&#039;t be dependent on what we wear, and it certainly shouldn&#039;t be used to dictate what other women wear.  To me, that was the lasting message of the episode.

But this Pintrest thing?  That I still can&#039;t quite wrap my head around.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Hi, recent new reader, found your blog via a comment of yours on AlreadyPretty.  I tried to comment on your recent chronic pain post, but I think the internet ate it.  Anyhow, hi.)</p>
<p>This is a really interesting topic, and an insightful post.  I&#8217;ve been watching The New Girl fairly casually (mostly because Community is on hiatus right now, sigh), so while I love Zooey, I haven&#8217;t followed much of the press about the show.  I hadn&#8217;t heard this divide articulated as Murphy vs. Zooey, but I think that encapsulates it well.  This is something I&#8217;ve struggled with myself over the last decade and a half, and as I&#8217;m nearing 31, I think I finally have a good handle on it.  Maybe.</p>
<p>I spent most of the last decade working as a video game designer (until taking a chronic-illness-induced sabbatical about a year ago).  It&#8217;s a very male-dominated industry, with about 90% of designers identifying as male, and about 95% of programmers.  There&#8217;s not a lot of interest or patience for anything twee, and being too girly can get you mistaken for the receptionist, rather than taken seriously as a creative professional.  Having an influence on the creative process at all requires that you speak loudly, clearly, and with a good dose of sarcasm and wit.</p>
<p>Those are things I&#8217;ve never had trouble with.  I&#8217;ve always been loud and sarcastic, despite being small in stature and easily injured physically.  So for years, I tried to make my exterior presentation fit with the idea of a tough, snarky video game designer who can keep up with the guys.  After wearing my hair long for a few years, I went to a salon and actually said the words &#8220;I need something edgier, my hair is way too sweet for me.&#8221;  The hairdresser cut it into a style inspired by Reese Witherspoon from Sweet Home Alabama, proving that not even my request for &#8220;edgy&#8221; was taken seriously.  But I spiked it out and got progressively shorter, spikier cuts.  I wore sarcastic tshirts and big Doc Martens and shrugged off colleague&#8217;s comments that I was &#8220;dressed up&#8221; when I wore even a jersey skirt with my sarcastic Ts and combat boots.  And beyond that, I focused on my designing and writing and pushed hard to be taken seriously by the male-dominated industry.</p>
<p>But early in my career, I came down with a chronic illness.  As it got worse, I stopped working full time in offices with other designers and programmers and started working more from home.  I would still carefully construct professional-but-edgy outfits for in-person meetings, but when working from home, I didn&#8217;t really give it much thought.  I stopped worrying if a tshirt accurately expressed my inner snark while papering over my outer girliness.  I grew my hair back out.  I took the plunge and got Zooey bangs, even.</p>
<p>And somewhere along the way, I realized I don&#8217;t have to walk around in a tshirt that says &#8220;snarky video game designer&#8221; to <i>be one</i>.  I don&#8217;t have to wear my profession on my sleeve &#8212; or my politics, my sexuality, my geek-cred, or my snarkiness.  I like to make my own clothes, and I don&#8217;t have to save those skills just for making geek-themed cosplay to retain my geek-cred.  I can wear vintage-inspired dresses that I designed and sewed myself, I can wear my hair long and curly with Zooey bangs, and it has absolutely nothing to do with my ability to design video games just as well as a guy can.  It also has absolutely nothing to do with my standing as a feminist.</p>
<p>So when you said &#8220;I find this exciting, because it means we get to decide which aspects of these narratives apply to our own lives&#8221;, I think you hit the nail on the head.  We get to choose, for ourselves, how much of Zooey we want to incorporate into ourselves, and how much of Murphy.  And we get to change that ratio whenever we want.  They aren&#8217;t mutually exclusive, and I think calling women out on <i>choosing</i> to be girly is going against everything the Murphy Browns of the world fought for.  Forcing women into a Murphy stereotype is just as bad as forcing women to be homemakers.  Isn&#8217;t feminism about choice?</p>
<p>Personally, I like being snarky and tech-y while wearing petticoats and winged eyeliner.  Retro femininity is something that feels good on my body, that works with my body type rather than against it, that makes me feel good about how I look.  But my personality isn&#8217;t Zooey, much less Jess &#8212; maybe Zooey a la Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide To The Galaxy, sarcastic and adventurous and likely to shoot a guy (with an empathy gun, probably, maybe).  But I shouldn&#8217;t have to act like Jess to defend the fact that I dress a bit like her, any more than I should have to dress like I stepped off the set of Hackers to defend my geek-cred.</p>
<p>And I agree with Zooey&#8217;s comment in the <a href="http://nymag.com/print/?/arts/tv/profiles/zooey-deschanel-2011-9/" rel="nofollow">NYMag article</a>: &#8220;I think the fact that people are associating being girlie with weakness, <i>that</i> needs to be examined. I don’t think that it undermines my power at all.”</p>
<p>As far as the end of the latest New Girl episode, with Julia coming over and joining in on crochet time, I didn&#8217;t feel like it was a slight against the Murphys of the world.  To me it said that it&#8217;s important to accept each other and support each other <i>as women</i> regardless of our Zooey dresses or Murphy Brown pantsuits.  Feminism shouldn&#8217;t be dependent on what we wear, and it certainly shouldn&#8217;t be used to dictate what other women wear.  To me, that was the lasting message of the episode.</p>
<p>But this Pintrest thing?  That I still can&#8217;t quite wrap my head around.  <img src='http://virginiasolesmith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Pinning Things Down by Virginia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, so true and wise, thank you. 

And oh how I dearly hope that Murphy Brown IS out there making Polyvore collages of her favorite pantsuits. Nothing would give me more joy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, so true and wise, thank you. </p>
<p>And oh how I dearly hope that Murphy Brown IS out there making Polyvore collages of her favorite pantsuits. Nothing would give me more joy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pinning Things Down by Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I struggled with the Murphy vs. Zooey thing for nearly 10 years but the Murphy persona always felt unnatural to me. You&#039;re right that I&#039;m lucky enough to control my narrative as a freelance writer and doubly lucky that I have enough professional colleagues who allow me to use my Zooeyness to enhance my work. 

I think that the benefit of Pinterest or Twitter or whatever social media outlet is currently floating your boat is that it gives you space to share your passions - who&#039;s to say Murphy Brown isn&#039;t out there tweeting under a pseudonym and making Polyvore collages of her favorite pantsuits? And when you start pinning, you find your &quot;people&quot; - and your narrative feels a little more validated and powerful. (Yes, this also means the troubling images have power too....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggled with the Murphy vs. Zooey thing for nearly 10 years but the Murphy persona always felt unnatural to me. You&#8217;re right that I&#8217;m lucky enough to control my narrative as a freelance writer and doubly lucky that I have enough professional colleagues who allow me to use my Zooeyness to enhance my work. </p>
<p>I think that the benefit of Pinterest or Twitter or whatever social media outlet is currently floating your boat is that it gives you space to share your passions &#8211; who&#8217;s to say Murphy Brown isn&#8217;t out there tweeting under a pseudonym and making Polyvore collages of her favorite pantsuits? And when you start pinning, you find your &#8220;people&#8221; &#8211; and your narrative feels a little more validated and powerful. (Yes, this also means the troubling images have power too&#8230;.)</p>
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